Der Mouse, I sent my post to bugtraq because I was informed that if produced material critical of AARNet security action would be taken against me in order to supress the distribution/publication of such material. Now I can only assume that thisgoes against everything bugtraq stands for vis-a-vis full disclosure. While I have become extermely tired of the yes/no full disclosure debate being aired on here, this is a little different, you must admit. Proff